Song Choice in Vidding (Slash Version)
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tinturtleI will probably be starting a new Professionals fanvid soon using the song Hammer to Fall by Queen. (Thanks to ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
restorick for the suggestion.) Today, though, I've been considering whether I should make a fluffy, romantic vid first (or maybe at the same time), since so many people seem to like the one I made using the Turtles's You Baby. Yet I find that, in addition to the barriers to song choice I mentioned in my previous post, vids like that present the further problem that potential songs are often inconveniently gendered. If the singer mentions the beloved in the third person, it may be as "she", if the singer addresses the beloved, it may be as "girl", and so on. Take the song I'm a Believer by The Monkees, which I love. (Yes, I'm a goop, but in my defense, the lyrics are clever and it's got a rock organ.) There are parts that might lend themselves to a Doyle POV vid, but to use the song that way would require associating Bodie with feminine pronouns. I don't know whether that should disqualify it or not, really. My inclination is that it should, however. I'm pretty sure it would have for the Lads and their contemporaries; overlooking it would feel like too much of an anachronism.
restorick for the suggestion.) Today, though, I've been considering whether I should make a fluffy, romantic vid first (or maybe at the same time), since so many people seem to like the one I made using the Turtles's You Baby. Yet I find that, in addition to the barriers to song choice I mentioned in my previous post, vids like that present the further problem that potential songs are often inconveniently gendered. If the singer mentions the beloved in the third person, it may be as "she", if the singer addresses the beloved, it may be as "girl", and so on. Take the song I'm a Believer by The Monkees, which I love. (Yes, I'm a goop, but in my defense, the lyrics are clever and it's got a rock organ.) There are parts that might lend themselves to a Doyle POV vid, but to use the song that way would require associating Bodie with feminine pronouns. I don't know whether that should disqualify it or not, really. My inclination is that it should, however. I'm pretty sure it would have for the Lads and their contemporaries; overlooking it would feel like too much of an anachronism.
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Re: romantic songs for Pros vids
Date: 2021-10-12 02:37 pm (UTC)A male vocal 'romantic' song that's nudged my memory is 'Iris' by Goo Goo Dolls. It's an unusual musical genre for a Pros vid, but bear with me...
The 'Iris' character is not mentioned and no gender given to the singer or beloved.
Checking the lyrics, the first 2 stanzas could be Bodie POV on Doyle: 'You're the closest to heaven that I'll ever be' = when he declares to Doyle in 'Mixed Doubles' that he's 'going the other way' or some such allusion to Hell waiting for him.
And the 4th stanza Doyle POV on Bodie: 'the tears that ain't coming' and 'moment of truth in your lies'.
The refrain could each be their personal POVs.
The 'And sooner or later, it's over' lyric could be about that moment of calm or relief when a dangerous op is over?
Anyway, just a thought (or several *g*)
Crikey, another slash suggestion from this Gen/Het Bodie-Girl!
RE: Re: romantic songs for Pros vids
Date: 2021-10-12 10:21 pm (UTC)Indeed not. One of the reasons I make posts is to see if I can get people to talk to me about whatever they are about. *g*
You mentioned Iris in a response to the other post. I think it could be a good fit for B and D, especially the theme of impermanence. It does have an instrumental section lasting just over 90 seconds (0_0), but I might be able to cut that, since there's nothing after it but a couple more choruses.
Crikey, another slash suggestion from this Gen/Het Bodie-Girl!
Either two people are having sex or they aren't, but emotionally I don't think there is a sharp boundary between being friends and being lovers. That makes it no great leap for someone with a gen/het interpretation of the show to see how a love song could apply to B and D's relationship when looked at from a slash fan's point of view.
I'm not strongly committed to either way of viewing things, myself. I made the You Baby vid, which is undeniably slash, but I also made a gen vid* using Just a Little Light by The Grateful Dead, which was almost certainly written as a (romantic) love song.
* (According to my vidderly intent, it's a gen vid. Others may and probably do interpret it otherwise.)